The claim
“Bro vibe coded a $20k MRR app in 14 days.”
@starter_story, 5 December 2025, 126,746 views1
“Left my job. Left my home. Living on savings. […] Goal: Build a $10k/month SaaS and document the process.”
@robj3d3, 20 January 2025, 1,147,962 views1
“SaaS” is software paid for by subscription. “Vibe coding” means having an AI tool write the code. MRR, monthly recurring revenue, is the price times the number paying this month, before fees, costs and tax. We checked what became of the second tweet’s goal against payment records; see The upside. This page judges the scheme, not the people who tweeted.
The sums
The most common monthly price across more than 115,000 subscription apps is $106. At that price, $10,000 a month needs 1,071 paying subscribers on the web or 1,177 in an app store, after payment or app-store fees (our sums)24.
If 2% of downloads end up paying (our estimate), 1,177 payers needs about 59,000 downloads6. On monthly app plans, 6% to 14% of subscribers still pay after a year, so an MRR figure describes one month6.
Buying those downloads with ads loses money at median (middle) numbers. A US subscriber costs about $67 to $130 on Apple’s ad system (our sums); the median payer on Apple’s store worldwide brings in about $23 (different samples, so rough)614.
What happens to most people who try
Among newly launched subscription apps, 17.3% reach $1,000 in monthly revenue within two years and 4.6% reach $10,000: about 1 in 6 and about 1 in 226. The median app earns about $72 a month a year after launch6. These count apps, not people, and include companies’ apps6.
Web figures come from TrustMRR, a public list that reads money received, not profit, from the founder’s payment account16. Two outside analyses of it put the median at $169 and $145 a month. One is by a forum user, the other by a company that sells a database of software ideas; we recomputed neither1011. No sample counts people who never finished or never charged.
Our estimate: a capable newcomer’s first product most likely earns between nothing and about $100 a month after a year.
The upside
One year after launch, the top quarter of subscription apps earns above $429 a month and the top tenth above $2,5746. Among listed web products of every age with revenue, that company’s analysis puts the top quarter above $894 a month, the top tenth above $5,107, and says 23.6% reach $1,000 a month11.
Two payment-verified outcomes:
- SuperX, @robj3d3’s tool for growing an audience on X: $21,866 MRR about 21 months after he started19. He had about 65,000 followers in October 20261.
- Conductor, which connects other software to an accounting program: $41,447 MRR from 264 subscriptions after about four years. Its founder has 1,032 followers61. We do not know whether one person runs it.
These are rare. About 50 of the more than 15,000 listings TrustMRR says it has show $41,000 a month or more: about 1 in 300 (our sum)16.
Our estimate of a good result about a year in, for a product that charges: roughly $430 to $900 a month. A very good one: roughly $2,500 to $5,000611.
What it takes to compete
Stripe, using data from a service it sells, compared the top tenth of solo founders with the middle. All had paid to set up a US company, so they are a committed group58. The top tenth:
- More often sell to businesses. They were nearly 30% more likely to. By month 24 the median solo founder selling to businesses had more than four times the revenue of one selling to consumers58. Mobile apps point the other way: 1.6% of business apps reached $10,000 a month, against 8.9% of gaming apps6.
- Keep their customers. Nearly 30% of first-month customers came back the next month, against 8% in the middle58.
The rest of the record adds:
- Time. First-year projects had a median of $148 a month; five-year-old survivors $2,50910.
- A price that fits the buyer. The verified web products take in about $14 to $157 per subscription a month (our sums) and hold 264 to 3,019 subscriptions. Conductor takes in the most per subscription and holds the fewest1920606162.
- Several attempts. One winner reports nine failures in ten, another 4 that grew out of more than 701868.
Tools cost about $800 to $2,300 a year (our estimate)15. The larger cost is time: about 21 months to nearly six years in the verified cases1962.
Early tests: strangers pay soon after launch, and first-month customers pay again. The commonest reported failure is sign-ups without payments26.
Who else makes money from it
Of our 52 tweets, 31 lead to something (our labels): the author’s own app, a paid list, a service, a tool, or a link sent on request1.
Starter Story, which posted the first tweet, sells builders a $395 programme; we found no outcome figures for buyers21. Marc Lou runs TrustMRR169. Of the $3,212,777 of verified revenue on his own page, about two thirds (our sum) came from a starter code kit and a coding course sold to would-be builders17.
The full researchEvery figure, every source, and what we could not verifyAbout 12,800 words · 86 sources →Sources (86)
- Does It Pay collection of 52 tweets on this scheme, collected 2026-10-06. Read on 2026-10-07. Counts by "sells" and "kind" use the collector's labels.
- Stripe, US pricing. https://stripe.com/us/pricing . Undated live page. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai (a direct visit returned the Finnish price page). Per-subscriber sums are our estimate.
- Paddle pricing, https://www.paddle.com/pricing , and Lemon Squeezy pricing, https://www.lemonsqueezy.com/pricing . Undated live pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Apple, App Store Small Business Program, https://developer.apple.com/app-store/small-business-program/ ; membership details, https://developer.apple.com/programs/whats-included/ and https://developer.apple.com/programs/enroll/ . Undated pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Google Play Console Help, service fees. https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/112622 . Undated page; states changes effective 2026-06-30 and 2026-09-30. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- RevenueCat, "State of Subscription Apps 2026". https://www.revenuecat.com/state-of-subscription-apps . March 2026 (2025 data). Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai. The 2% conversion rate, download counts and the ad comparison are our estimate.
- RevenueCat, insights from the 2026 report. https://revenuecat.com/sosa-26-insights/ . 2026, exact day not shown. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- RevenueCat, "State of Subscription Apps 2025". https://www.revenuecat.com/state-of-subscription-apps-2025/ . 2025. Read at source on 2026-10-07; publication month not confirmed.
- TrustMRR, statistics. https://trustmrr.com/stats . States "Last updated: Oct 7, 2026". Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Indie Hackers post, "I analyzed 5,079 Stripe-verified startups". https://www.indiehackers.com/post/i-analyzed-5-079-stripe-verified-startups-f0f6bd053f . 2026-03-12. Read at source on 2026-10-07; one forum user's analysis, not reproduced.
- BigIdeasDB, "State of indie SaaS revenue 2026". https://bigideasdb.com/state-of-indie-saas-revenue-2026 . 2026-07-03. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai (direct visit refused); not reproduced.
- ChartMogul, SaaS conversion report. https://chartmogul.com/reports/saas-conversion-report/ . 2026-02-04. Read at source on 2026-10-07. Visitor counts are our estimate.
- ChartMogul, "What is a good customer churn rate?". https://chartmogul.com/blog/good-customer-churn-rate/ . 2022-02-23. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Adapty, Apple Ads for subscription apps. https://adapty.io/apple-ads-for-subscription-apps/ . 2026 (2025 data). Read at source on 2026-10-07. Costs per subscriber are our estimate.
- Tool price pages: https://cursor.com/pricing , https://claude.com/pricing , https://lovable.dev/pricing (through r.jina.ai), https://docs.lovable.dev/introduction/plans-and-credits , https://supabase.com/pricing , https://vercel.com/pricing , https://replit.com/pricing . Undated live pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07. The monthly totals are our estimate.
- TrustMRR, home page and directory. https://trustmrr.com/ and https://trustmrr.com/startups . Live pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- TrustMRR, founder page for Marc Lou. https://trustmrr.com/founder/marclou . Live page. Read at source on 2026-10-07, directly and through r.jina.ai.
- Marc Lou newsletter, "I've made $3M with my 36 startups". https://newsletter.marclou.com/p/i-ve-made-3m-with-my-36-startups . 2026-09-08. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- TrustMRR, SuperX. https://trustmrr.com/startup/superx and its text version, https://trustmrr.com/startup/superx.md . Live pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- TrustMRR, DataFast. https://trustmrr.com/startup/datafast and its text version, https://trustmrr.com/startup/datafast.md . Live pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Starter Story Build, https://build.starterstory.com/ , and About page, https://www.starterstory.com/about . Undated pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Scraping Fish, analysis of Indie Hackers revenue. https://scrapingfish.com/blog/indie-hackers-revenue . 2022-07-16. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Indie Hackers, "Indie Hackers are making $60 million in Stripe-verified ARR". https://www.indiehackers.com/post/indie-hackers-are-making-60-million-in-stripe-verified-arr-bac07f782d . 2021-09-22. Read at source on 2026-10-07; the figures used are from reader comments under the post, so secondary.
- Indie Hackers, "4 years, 26 projects, $115k". https://www.indiehackers.com/post/4-years-26-projects-115k-lessons-from-an-indie-hacker-7ab46733da . 2024-09-20. Read at source on 2026-10-07; self-reported.
- Hacker News thread on side projects making $500 a month. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49417766 . 2026-08-24. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through the Hacker News search service; self-reported.
- Collab365, "Indie SaaS post-mortems point to no buyers, not bad code". https://spaces.collab365.com/posts/indie-saas-post-mortems-point-to-no-buyers-not-bad-code-utt3f3m2 . 2026-09-09. Secondary.
- Dev Genius, "I Quit My $200K Job to Build a SaaS. 18 Months Later: $147 MRR". https://blog.devgenius.io/i-quit-my-200k-job-to-build-a-saas-18-months-later-147-mrr-33470638c21c . 2026-03-05. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai (direct visit refused); pseudonymous, no proof.
- Tony Dinh newsletter, "My first million". https://news.tonydinh.com/p/nov-2024-my-first-million . 2024-11-22. Read at source on 2026-10-07; self-reported.
- Pieter Levels's website. https://levels.io/ . Posts dated 2026-03-06 and 2026-09-23. Read at source on 2026-10-07; self-reported.
- TechCrunch, on the sale of Base44 to Wix. https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/18/6-month-old-solo-owned-vibe-coder-base44-sells-to-wix-for-80m-cash/ . 2025-06-18. Secondary.
- Apple Newsroom, App Store review figures for 2024. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/the-app-store-prevented-more-than-9-billion-usd-in-fraudulent-transactions/ . 2025-05-27. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Apple, App Review Guidelines (3.1.1, 4.1, 4.3). https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Apple Developer News, guideline update. https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=ey6d8onl . 2025-11-13. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Google Play Console Help, testing requirement for new personal accounts, https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/14151465 , and registration, https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/6112435 . Undated pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Google Play, enforcement process, https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9899234 ; minimum functionality policy, https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9898783 . Undated pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Stripe, restricted businesses, https://stripe.com/legal/restricted-businesses (updated 2026-09-22), and services agreement, https://stripe.com/legal/ssa (modified 2026-09-28). Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Stripe Docs, dispute monitoring programmes. https://docs.stripe.com/disputes/monitoring-programs . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Veracode, GenAI code security report. https://www.veracode.com/blog/genai-code-security-report/ . 2025-07-30. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- CVE-2025-48757, as held in the CIRCL database. https://cve.circl.lu/api/cve/CVE-2025-48757 . 2025-05-30. Read at source on 2026-10-07 (the two official CVE sites returned empty pages).
- Escape, method note on vulnerabilities in vibe-coded apps. https://escape.tech/blog/methodology-how-we-discovered-vulnerabilities-apps-built-with-vibe-coding/ . 2025-10-29. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- The Register, on vulnerabilities in an app built with Lovable. https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/27/lovable_app_vulnerabilities . 2026-02-27. Secondary (news report); article read on 2026-10-07.
- The Register, on an AI agent deleting a database. https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/21/replit_saastr_vibe_coding_incident/ . 2025-07-21. Secondary (news report); article read on 2026-10-07.
- US Code, title 15, section 8403, https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/8403 ; FTC negative option rule page, https://www.ftc.gov/legal-library/browse/rules/negative-option-rule (notices dated 2026-02-12 and 2026-03-13). Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- European Commission, VAT One Stop Shop registration. https://vat-one-stop-shop.ec.europa.eu/one-stop-shop/register-oss_en . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Anthropic, commercial terms. https://www.anthropic.com/legal/commercial-terms . Effective 2025-06-17. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- US Copyright Office, "Copyright and Artificial Intelligence, Part 2: Copyrightability". https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-2-Copyrightability-Report.pdf . January 2025. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Apple, EU trader requirements. https://developer.apple.com/help/app-store-connect/manage-compliance-information/manage-european-union-digital-services-act-trader-requirements/ . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Acquire.com seller pricing, https://acquire.com/seller-pricing/ , and Flippa pricing, https://flippa.com/pricing . Undated pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Acquire.com, acquisition multiples report, https://blog.acquire.com/acquire-com-biannual-acquisition-multiples-report-jan-2026/ (2026-02-11), and webinar recap, https://blog.acquire.com/acquisition-multiples-report-2025-findings-webinar-recap/ (2026-03-20). Read at source on 2026-10-07. The sale-price sum is our estimate.
- Beancount.io, on valuation multiples for small software businesses. https://beancount.io/blog/2026/07/11/bootstrapped-saas-valuation-multiples-2026-acquire-com-indie-founders-guide . 2026-07-11 (from the address). Secondary.
- ShipFast, https://shipfa.st/ and https://shipfa.st/affiliates ; CodeFast, https://codefa.st/ . Undated pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- TrustMRR, affiliate page, https://trustmrr.com/affiliate , and its own listing, https://trustmrr.com/startup/trustmrr . Live pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Lovable, affiliates. https://lovable.dev/affiliates . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Shipped. https://shipped.club/ . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- CodeSpring. https://codespring.app/ . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Federal Trade Commission, press release on deceptive AI claims and schemes. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/09/ftc-announces-crackdown-deceptive-ai-claims-schemes . 2024-09-25. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Federal Trade Commission, business guidance on the Business Opportunity Rule. https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/selling-work-home-or-other-business-opportunity-revised-rule-may-apply-you . November 2011. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Stripe, blog post on the traits of top solo founders. https://stripe.com/blog/top-solo-founder-traits . 2026-05-28. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai. Stripe sells Atlas, the service the data comes from.
- Stripe, "Stripe Atlas startups in 2025: year in review". https://stripe.com/blog/stripe-atlas-startups-in-2025-year-in-review . 2025-12-18. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai.
- TrustMRR, Post Bridge. https://trustmrr.com/startup/post-bridge.md . Live page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- TrustMRR, Conductor. https://trustmrr.com/startup/conductor.md . Live page. Read at source on 2026-10-07. The per-subscription figure is our sum.
- TrustMRR, Web3Forms, https://trustmrr.com/startup/web3forms.md ; Podawaa, https://trustmrr.com/startup/podawaa.md ; LLM Gateway, https://trustmrr.com/startup/llm-gateway.md . Live pages. Read at source on 2026-10-07. The LLM Gateway listing states its revenue was last synced on 2026-09-07.
- TrustMRR, Speel.co. https://trustmrr.com/startup/speel-co.md . Live page. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Wix.com Ltd, annual report on Form 20-F for 2025, filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1576789/000162828026015222/wix-20251231.htm . 2026-03-05. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Wix.com Ltd, second-quarter 2025 results release, filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1576789/000162828025038117/secondquarter2025.htm . 2025-08-06. Read at source on 2026-10-07; a company forecast.
- Globes, on Wix buying Base44. https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-wix-acquires-israeli-vibe-coding-co-base44-1001513267 . 2025-06-18. Secondary.
- Tony Dinh newsletter, October 2025 update, and the newsletter's archive. https://news.tonydinh.com/p/oct-2025-updates-code-money-and-travel . 2025-10-09. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai; self-reported.
- Pieter Levels, "Only 4 out of 70+ projects I ever did made money and grew". https://levels.io/only-4-out-of-70-projects-made-money . 2021-11-07. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai; self-reported.
- TrustMRR, marketplace page, https://trustmrr.com/acquire , and the SocialKit listing, https://trustmrr.com/startup/socialkit.md . Live pages; the seller's post shown there is dated 2026-08-16. Read at source on 2026-10-07. The sale price is the seller's statement; the multiple is our sum.
- RevenueCat, winners of its 2025 Shipaton contest. https://www.revenuecat.com/blog/company/shipaton-2025-winners . 2025-10-13. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Bolt, winners of its 2025 hackathon. https://bolt.new/blog/2025-bolt-hackathon-winners . 2025-08-15. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai. The per-person average is our sum.
- Apple Newsroom, on developer billings and sales in the US in 2024. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/app-store-in-the-us-facilitated-406-billion-usd-in-developer-billings-and-sales-in-2024/ . May 2025. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Lovable, "A first look at the build economy". https://lovable.dev/blog/a-first-look-at-the-build-economy . 2026, date not shown in the text received (survey dated May 2026). Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai.
- The Next Web, on Lovable's report. https://thenextweb.com/news/lovable-build-economy-500m-arr-vibe-coding . 2026-06-09. Secondary.
- ChartMogul, SaaS growth report. https://chartmogul.com/reports/saas-growth-report/ . 2023-08-30. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai.
- ChartMogul, SaaS go-to-market report. https://chartmogul.com/reports/saas-go-to-market-report/ . 2025-06-11. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai.
- ChartMogul, "SaaS growth: the odds of making it". https://chartmogul.com/reports/saas-growth-the-odds-of-making-it/ . 2025-10-15. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai.
- ChartMogul, "SaaS retention: the AI churn wave". https://chartmogul.com/reports/saas-retention-the-ai-churn-wave/ . 2025-12-10. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai.
- Startups for the Rest of Us, episode 721, on the 2024 State of Independent SaaS report. https://www.startupsfortherestofus.com/episodes/episode-721-7-key-takeaways-from-the-2024-state-of-independent-saas-report . 2024-07-09. Secondary (the report's authors describing it; the report itself was not opened).
- MicroConf, page for founders at an early stage. https://microconf.com/founders/0-10k-arr . Undated page; data collected late 2023. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- TechCrunch, on app releases, citing Appfigures. https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/18/the-app-store-is-booming-again-and-ai-may-be-why/ . 2026-04-18. Secondary.
- Apple Newsroom, App Store review figures for 2025. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/05/the-app-store-stopped-over-2-point-2-billion-usd-in-fraudulent-transactions-in-2025/ . 2026-05-20. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Apple Newsroom, announcement of the App Store Small Business Program. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/11/apple-announces-app-store-small-business-program/ . 2020-11-18. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- European Union, Your Europe, cross-border VAT. https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/taxation/vat/cross-border-vat/index_en.htm . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-07 through r.jina.ai.
- Starter Story, "How we research". https://www.starterstory.com/how-we-research . 2026-06-15. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
- Federal Trade Commission, press release on its case against Air AI. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/08/ftc-sues-stop-air-ai-using-deceptive-claims-about-business-growth-earnings-potential-refund . 2025-08-25. Read at source on 2026-10-07.
