The claim
“The First Prediction Market Prop Firm
Pass an Evaluation and get up to $100,000 to trade”
@FundingPredicts, 1,177,041 views1. A prediction market is a site for betting on the outcome of events.
“#1 Quant Prop Firm Trader 🤯 $1.8+ Million in Payouts in JUST 18 Months!”
@Wordsofrizdom, 33,274 views1. The tweet promotes a podcast episode about a guest’s trading; the quote is its opening lines.
We did not check the payout figures in the tweets1. This page judges the scheme, not the people who tweeted.
A “prop firm” sells a trading test. You pay a fee and must hit a profit target without breaking the loss limits. Pass, and you get a “funded account” and usually keep 80% to 100% of its profit37832. At the firms whose terms we read, both the test and the funded account are simulations: FTMO calls them “demo accounts with fictitious funds”7. The payouts are real money. You cannot lose more than your fees, but you can lose every fee.
The sums
One try is cheap. Topstep charges $49 to $199 a month for its standard test, and FTMO charges EUR 540 once for a $100,000 challenge with two test phases267. A minority are ever paid.
| Source | Passed the test | Ever received a payout |
|---|---|---|
| Topstep, own figures, 20252 | 51.8% of people | about 17% of people (our estimate) |
| FPFX Tech data, 10 firms, reported 202413 | 14% | 7% |
| The Funded Trader, its chief executive, 202515 | 5% to 10% | 1% to 2% (worked out by the trade press from his figures) |
The rows are measured differently and cannot be compared exactly. Our 17% multiplies two Topstep percentages that cover different groups2. The FPFX data is not public. We read it, The Funded Trader’s figures and the poll below only in trade press reports131415.
Payouts are small. FundedNext’s median single payout in February 2026 was $567, meaning half were smaller, and its average was $1,119, as reported in the trade press18. Topstep’s own unaudited average is $2,3004.
So the $1.8 million in 18 months said of the podcast guest is $100,000 a month, or about 43 payouts of $2,300 every month (our sums)14. That means many funded accounts at once.
What happens to most people who try
Most pay for several attempts and get no payout: about five in six starters at Topstep in 2025, on our estimate, and 93 in 100 in the FPFX data213. In that data an account spent $800 on average, typically across three challenges13.
Two thirds of people at Topstep’s funded level received no payout in 2025, though some may have been paid in other years2. With narrow exceptions, fees are not refunded: Topstep’s terms call them “final, non-cancelable, and non-refundable”543.
No firm we found publishes the share of customers who got back more than they paid. The nearest figure is a prop firm’s poll of 459 active customers: 41% said they were profitable and almost 60% said they lost money14. These are people’s own answers, and those who gave up are not in it.
The upside
Real money reaches traders, and a small group is paid repeatedly.
- Repeat earners. At FundedNext, 284 traders with 25 or more lifetime payouts received $2.37 million in February 2026, roughly $8,300 each on average for the month (our division)18. Firm-reported, read in a press report18.
- The largest single payout. FTMO says its highest was $964,980.5512. Its own statement; other numbers in the same post do not match.
We found no individual income report backed by bank records, tax records or a journalist’s review.
A good first year for a competent person at a firm that publishes its figures, on our estimate: passing after a few attempts and getting one or a few payouts of roughly $570 to $3,500 each41218. Whether that beats the fees depends on how many attempts it took.
What it takes to compete
- A trading edge before you pay, meaning a method that makes money on average. A study in Taiwan found under 1% of day traders using their own money outperformed consistently40. A pass alone proves little: on one software company’s model, not a measurement, a trader with no skill passes a Topstep-style test about 40% of the time with a fixed loss limit44. The real sign is being paid again and again.
- A fee budget for several attempts. At Topstep, 16.8% of attempts pass2.
- A firm that pays. Look for one that publishes its pass and payout rates, as Topstep does2. FTMO’s terms say it is not regulated by a financial authority and “you will not receive regulatory protection”9. One firm, The Funded Trader, paused all operations in March 2024; a year later 1,272 people were reported to be waiting for payouts1617.
To tell early (our judgement): trade a free demo under the firm’s exact loss limits for several months, and total every fee against every payout.
Who else makes money from it
The firm. Its income is the fees. A newsletter’s reading of FTMO’s 2024 accounts puts payouts at about 55% of revenue23. So roughly half of the fees come back, to the minority who are paid.
The promoter. By our count, 23 of the 40 tweets point to a discount code, an affiliate link or a comparison site; the labels are partly inference1. FTMO pays affiliates 8% to 20% of a buyer’s first challenge11. Nothing in the terms we read ties a promoter’s pay to the follower being paid. We did not check whether any particular account quoted on this page is an affiliate.
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- Topstep, programme and pricing page. https://www.topstep.com/topstep-prop . Undated page. Read at source on 2026-10-08.
- FTMO, home page with price list, average rewards and totals. https://ftmo.com/en/ ; demo-account statement also at https://ftmo.com/en/terms-and-conditions/ (modified 2026-08-26). Read at source on 2026-10-08, directly and through a reader service.
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- FTMO blog, "We pay millions in payouts to our FTMO traders". https://ftmo.com/en/blog/we-pay-millions-in-payouts-to-our-ftmo-traders/ . 2024-02-09. Read at source on 2026-10-08. Averages per payout are estimates.
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- Finance Magnates, "Poll reveals 60% of prop firm clients lose funds". https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/analysis/exclusive-poll-reveals-60-of-prop-firm-clients-lose-funds-investing-4300-on-average/ . 2024-08-13. Secondary (reports a PipFarm survey).
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- Finance Magnates, "This prop firm has nearly 1,300 traders waiting a year for their money". https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/this-prop-firm-has-nearly-1300-traders-waiting-a-year-for-their-money/ . 2025-03-03. Secondary.
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- Finance Magnates article on FundedNext's February 2026 payout report, copy republished on another site. https://coinspectator.com/mainstream/2026/03/06/prop-firm-fundednext-says-it-paid-15m-to-more-than-8000-traders-in-february/ . 2026-03-06. Secondary (read through a reader service). Per-trader figures are estimates.
- Finance Magnates, "FTMO adds $200 million to lifetime payouts in one year". https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/ftmo-adds-200-million-to-lifetime-payouts-in-one-year-as-monthly-rewards-near-15-million/ . 2026-10-08. Secondary (read through a reader service).
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- Finance Magnates, "FTMO's 2023 turnover hits $213 million". https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/exclusive-prop-trading-giant-ftmos-2023-turnover-hits-213-million/ . 2024-07-31. Secondary (read through a reader service).
- Finance Magnates, "FTMO's parent netted over $62 million on $329M revenue in 2024". https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/ftmos-parent-netted-over-62-million-on-329m-revenue-in-2024/ . 2025-11-14. Secondary.
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